I made four node groups in blender and saved the blender file to my hard drive. I want these node groups to appear every time I start Blender, so I do have not append them every time I need them. So I opened up a new blender file, clicked on "append" and appended all of the node groups from other blender file. I click on save start-up file and exit. When I open blender again, the node groups appear but not all of them. Only one or two. if I append the missing node group again, and save it again, the next time I open up blender all node groups are gone. It is like random.

Am I doing something wrong or something is broken with blender?

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    $\begingroup$ have you set a fake user on the node groups before saving the startup file? $\endgroup$
    – aliasguru
    Commented Apr 4, 2017 at 6:43

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Node groups have users linked to them, like materials or textures. If a node group has no user, it will not be saved to the blend file. After startup they will be gone. In some cases it takes more than one restart and save before all unused instances are gone due to internal dependancies.

You could, as aliasguru suggested, set fake users. This could be done by executing this line in the python console:

for node_group in bpy.data.node_groups: node_group.use_fake_user=True

Afterwards they should not disappear anymore. Note that you have to repeat it for every file and when you create new node groups.

  • $\begingroup$ Any other way to do this beside python? I have no clue about python console. And you did not tell me if I should type in those lines exactly or how. $\endgroup$
    – 4-K
    Commented Apr 5, 2017 at 14:40
  • $\begingroup$ @4-K: It works straight forward. Copy the code line in my post. Then open a Python Console Window in Blender. Hover the cursor inside, so it is the active window. Paste the line with crtl+v if you use windows. Press enter two times. Then you can save your file and close the console window forever. You won't need it anymore $\endgroup$
    – Dimali
    Commented Apr 5, 2017 at 14:51

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